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 Post subject: minta pandangan enjin yg sesuai buat ke70
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:34 pm 
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Salam kepada warga KKL
Agak lama sudah tidak berforum..
Minta pandangan drp otai sekalian,budget dh ade, cuma pilihan enjin je xder lg..
Sy perlukan pilihan yg tepat,kereta gl ke70 enjin standard bagak..
Tujuan untuk kegunaan harian dan senang maintain
klu boleh xnk la bila bwk enjin mintak gear lg( gear 5 enjin melahu mintak gear lg)
budget dlm 2k-3k je sbb nk buat body lg huhu..lama gak ni simpan..
ataupun ade kwn2 nk jual enjin 5k ker..tp harga jgnla over sgt..
kt melaka mahal la..
so beri pandangan


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 Post subject: Re: minta pandangan enjin yg sesuai buat ke70
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:53 pm 
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ermm..turbokan enjin asal?

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 Post subject: Re: minta pandangan enjin yg sesuai buat ke70
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eizeez wrote:
ermm..turbokan enjin asal?


klu turbo kan byk kerja ubahsuai kena dilakukan? tahan ke stock enjin? Yela enjin dh lama kan? Idea 2 mmg best tp mcm mana pulak maintenance nya? Kt melaka 4age 16v mahal RM5k++..2 xmasuk lg barg yg kena tkr sbb wear and tear..


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 Post subject: Re: minta pandangan enjin yg sesuai buat ke70
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:10 pm 
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ada cadangan sya...
tengok budget bro... dulu ..

1. budget ciput..kekalkan enjin asal. tukarkan piston 5k atau yg seangkatan je dan tukarkan kaburator kepada dual kaburator. hehehehhe weber atau solex. pastu cuba tukar atau main trottle kat enjin 4k tu. hehehehe. baru layan...

2. budget sedang2.. tukar ke 5k atau 7k teruish... tapi bila dah nak upgrade power ni... pastikan body wat dulu untuk keselamatan....
jangan bila tukar henjin pastu tak kasik body mantap... nanti relai satu-satu atas jalan.. heheheheh

3. budget terlebih... tukar terusih ke 4age 16v ka atau 4age 20v ka.... ingat body reta pastikan dibuat dulu.....sistem brek pun kena tukar kepada lebih power.. hehehhe sendiri mau ingat ya...

4. budget melampau ... hehehhe tukar henjin baru sekali reta teruish... la senang.......

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Cikgu,cite skit pasal ke10 turbo tu...

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 Post subject: Re: minta pandangan enjin yg sesuai buat ke70
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:39 pm 
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sir attha wrote:
ada cadangan sya...
tengok budget bro... dulu ..

1. budget ciput..kekalkan enjin asal. tukarkan piston 5k atau yg seangkatan je dan tukarkan kaburator kepada dual kaburator. hehehehhe weber atau solex. pastu cuba tukar atau main trottle kat enjin 4k tu. hehehehe. baru layan...

2. budget sedang2.. tukar ke 5k atau 7k teruish... tapi bila dah nak upgrade power ni... pastikan body wat dulu untuk keselamatan....
jangan bila tukar henjin pastu tak kasik body mantap... nanti relai satu-satu atas jalan.. heheheheh

3. budget terlebih... tukar terusih ke 4age 16v ka atau 4age 20v ka.... ingat body reta pastikan dibuat dulu.....sistem brek pun kena tukar kepada lebih power.. hehehhe sendiri mau ingat ya...


nk tanya klu tukar piston 5k blok xnipis ker tanya jer yela xtau...tahan x ntt?

4. budget melampau ... hehehhe tukar henjin baru sekali reta teruish... la senang.......


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 Post subject: Re: minta pandangan enjin yg sesuai buat ke70
PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:35 pm 
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TQ KE70 wrote:
sir attha wrote:
ada cadangan sya...
tengok budget bro... dulu ..

1. budget ciput..kekalkan enjin asal. tukarkan piston 5k atau yg seangkatan je dan tukarkan kaburator kepada dual kaburator. hehehehhe weber atau solex. pastu cuba tukar atau main trottle kat enjin 4k tu. hehehehe. baru layan...

2. budget sedang2.. tukar ke 5k atau 7k teruish... tapi bila dah nak upgrade power ni... pastikan body wat dulu untuk keselamatan....
jangan bila tukar henjin pastu tak kasik body mantap... nanti relai satu-satu atas jalan.. heheheheh

3. budget terlebih... tukar terusih ke 4age 16v ka atau 4age 20v ka.... ingat body reta pastikan dibuat dulu.....sistem brek pun kena tukar kepada lebih power.. hehehhe sendiri mau ingat ya...
4. budget melampau ... hehehhe tukar henjin baru sekali reta teruish... la senang.......


nk tanya klu tukar piston 5k blok xnipis ker tanya jer yela xtau...tahan x ntt?

hang kena tanya otai bardroi atau badul boso tu....
tapi kalau tak silap lebih kurang ja.....

4K

Para 1.3 L (1290 cc) 4K telah dihasilkan dari tahun 1978 melalui 1989. Lubang silinder ialah 75 mm (2,95) dan strok adalah 73 mm (2,87). Ia adalah 8-injap OHV enjin.

Pada tahun 1980, 4K menghasilkan 60 hp (45 kW) pada 5250 RPM. Dari 1982 melalui 1984, output adalah 65 hp (48 kW) pada 5600 RPM dan 72 ka · lbf (97 N · m) pada 3600 RPM.

1981 dan 1982 California-spec 4K-C menghasilkan 58 hp (43 kW) pada 5200 RPM dan 67 ft.lbf (90 Nm) pada 3600 RPM. Tork sehingga 74 ka · lbf (100 N · m) pada 3400 RPM untuk bahan api yang disuntik 1982 melalui 1984 4K-E . Jepun-spec 4K-U menghasilkan 74 hp (55 kW) pada 5600 RPM dan 78 ka · lbf (105 N · m) pada 3600 RPM pada tahun 1982.

5K
Toyota 5K-C enjin dalam Liteace 1991

L 1.5 (1486 cc) 5K dihasilkan dari 1983 melalui 1996. Bore ialah 80,5 mm, strok adalah 73,0 mm. Seperti motor 4K sebelumnya, ia menggunakan lifters hidraulik serta lifters Pepejal.

7K

Para 1.8 L (1781 cc) 7K mula diperkenalkan pada tahun 1983. Lubang silinder adalah 80,5 mm (3.17 in) dan strok adalah 87,5 mm (3,44). Output ialah 80 hp (60 kW) pada 4600 RPM dan 103 ka · lbf (139 N · m) pada 2800 Adakah terdapat dengan manual 5 kelajuan & 4 kelajuan transmisi automatik . Terdapat dalam konfigurasi kedua-dua bahan api yang disuntik dan carburetted , 7K menghasilkan lebih banyak kuasa dan tork berbanding dengan enjin K yang lain tetapi banyak kurang 'put gembira kerana mempunyai strok besar.

Spesifikasi
Engine Tahun Anjakan BHP Tork (paun-kuning) Bore (mm) Strok (mm)CR Nota
K 66-69 1077 60 @ 6000 62,7 @ 3800 75 61 09:01
KB 68-69 1077 73 @ 6600 66,3 @ 4400 75 61 10:01 pelari pecut twincarb
2K 69-88 993 45 @ 5600 49 @ 4000 72 61 09:01
3K 69-77 1166 73 @ 6000 74,2 @ 3800 75 66 09:01
3K-B 69-75 1166 83 @ 6600 75 @ 4600 75 66 10:01 pelari pecut twincarb
3K-D 69-77 1166 79 @ 6600 75 @ 4200 75 66 10:01 carb dua
3K-H 74-79 1166 60 @ 6000 75 66 09:01
3K-C 77-79 1166 60 @ 6000 75 66 8.5:1 California pelepasan
4K 78-89 + 1290 75 73
4K 80-81 1290 60 @ 6000 75 73 09:01
4K-U 82 1290 74 @ 5600 78 @ 3600 75 73 09:01 Pelepasan Jepun
4K 82-84 1290 65 @ 5600 72 @ 3600 75 73 9.4:1
4K-C 81-82 1290 58 @ 5200 67 @ 3600 75 73 09:01 California pelepasan
4K-E 82-84 1290 58 @ 4200 74 @ 3400 75 73 9.5:1 Suntikan bahan api
5K 83-89 1496 70 @ 4800 85 @ 3200 80,5 73 9.3:1
7K 98 1781 76 @ 4600 103 @ 2800 80,5 87,5 09:01

Sila ambil perhatian bahawa ini adalah bertujuan untuk menjadi BHP KILANG dipetik dan angka-angka tork.

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 Post subject: Re: minta pandangan enjin yg sesuai buat ke70
PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:40 pm 
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Default 1ggte pistons and rods in 4k

well, people always say you can put 1ggte pistons and rods into a 4k going off the measurements etc, so i thought to prove it true or false, having the majority of the ingredients. not a perfect experiement, but close enough.

you will need 1ggte or gze or ge rods, so long as they are not gen 3 1ggte rods you will be fine, as these have a bigger big end.
the ones i had had .25 oversize bearings, so they were a little tight on the crank, but for my purpose all was well.
i also had no bearings on the crank, dont know what id done with them, bin im guessing. but it was bolted in, so again, close enough
i took the rings off the piston for ease of use.

anddd, it works
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thats the piston near bdc

and at TDC, it was about 3mm below the deck, which may work well for a turbo setup, or now you know it works, rig it up and work out exactly how much you want to deck the block by, but 3mm is a good rough guide. it was measured with verniers

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you have to swap rod and piston, as the piston (edit: gudgeon, duh) pins are different, 1g is 20mm and 4k is 18 mm.

im pretty tired so its fairly breif, and no point boring you with shit, any questions, please ask, im willing to help



source - http://www.toymods.org.au/forums/tech-conversions/29192-1ggte-pistons-rods-4k.html

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 Post subject: Re: minta pandangan enjin yg sesuai buat ke70
PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:33 am 
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Terima kasih Sir Attha, tp sy kurg fhm, maksudnya klu nk ubah sy kena tukar 1ggte pistons and rods in 4k la? tp minta maaf ckp sbb sy xarif ttg benda ni...dan sy xpasti di melaka ni ader tidak kepakaran 2. Klu la ade bengkel yg boleh dicadangkan? yg berdekatan...


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 Post subject: Re: minta pandangan enjin yg sesuai buat ke70
PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:49 am 
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yeap... rasanya... tapi cuba tanya pakar toy dulu kekadang cuba check geng2 ke30.. depa pun pakai k series gak...

cuba check ni... http://www.keretalama.com/ke30-1979-t5712.html
bob ke30 pakai EFI injection.... cuba tanya dia minta pendapat... hehehe berguru...
rasaya leh pakai UNSER punya kalau nak cuba....


check ni... http://www.keretalama.com/red-banzai-bosozoku-page-119-t1647.html
trashed dah wat tukar piston 5k dlm blok 4k dia.. cer tanya dia... heheheh

good luck... harap membantu anda..

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 Post subject: Re: minta pandangan enjin yg sesuai buat ke70
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:23 am 
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sir attha thanks for the info..


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 Post subject: Re: minta pandangan enjin yg sesuai buat ke70
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:47 am 
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bro nanti jangan lupa update di KKL. hanya di KKL ya... biaq jadi rujukan dan igauan pemunya2 4K . heheheh

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Baik insyallah.


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Sir attha nk tanya la ble x klu long shaft standard 4k 2 kita tukar yg lain cth mcm ae86 punya ker, atau ade lg ker long shaft ke70? atau bleh kah diservis? maaf tanya


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boleh takdak masalah. cuma pastikan kepala utk gear dan kepala utk axle pakai yang lama balik. dan kalau nak potong atau pendekkan pasti potong kat sini. kat head dia. kalau nak kurangkan gegaran pakailah 2 piece punya. ada member dah buat.

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